Home Market TR8’s RHD UK

RHD TR8 not listed here? Then its likely it isn’t genuine. Concerned? Then we now have a FB group here where you can ask specific questions. If you would like to learn more about Factory TR8’s RHD UK and LHD USA spec then please also feel free to join us.

This list is approved as being the definitive listing for FACTORY BUILT RHD TR8’s by a growing number of TRIUMPH/TR Car Clubs.

Outside of test EXP cars of which 3 could be considered RHD TR8’s given they were built from RHD shells, there were 2 x early Canley built RHD TR8’s (built from a RHD shell and a collection/pile of US TR8 parts which were then modified to suit), then 2 x Methods build cars 1 x Man and 1 x Auto.  All of these first 4 cars were fitted with auto choke as were the USA cars.

And finally 2 x batches of 9 press/launch cars (total 18), all of these were fitted with manual choke yet the build cards say they were fitted with auto chokes. Total RHD TR8’s home market 22 or 25 if you included the 3 x RHD EXP cars, X921, X923 and X925. A common mistake is that various books often quote 14. The second batch because it was much later is often forgotten and or not known about and or the earlier cars the same issue.

After that there are a collection of LHD EXP and USA spec cars with US chassis numbers taken from the line and converted to RHD for various test purposes; taking the total of factory RHD TR8’s to around 34/35. Note I have differentiated between “Home Market RHD” and factory built/modified RHD dependant on how they intentionally started out and their chassis numbers, UK for home market, or USA for factory converted..

Type Approval for RHD HOME MARKET UK TR8

Canley built RHD HOME MARKET TR8’s (1980)

The first two  initial RHD “home market” TR8’s one Silver, and the other Green (see BL Motorsport section) were built from a RHD shell and a collection/pile of US TR8 parts which were then modified to suit. Many USA spec parts such as the impact sensor cut off are still on these cars largely because of the way they were built, as are US chassis plates albeit in the UK position on the suspension turret. Interestingly for the Green one only, it has a body number series the same as for all the next RHD TR8;s including the  2 x methods build and the 18 RHD Press cars all having the CHP 300 series body numbers. So another way to check if the car is a genuine home market RHD TR8 or at least from the NWK988W onwards which is where the 9:35 pistons came in, the previous two car being 8:13. The first silver one is a BBP series number which I believe would have been RHD TR7 body shells as such  There is some confusion over one of the methods build cars but I believe it was CHP300 series regardless, and that was just human error as was the TR7 chassis number on the other one. Gary Owen Factory Manger at Triumph Canley in charge of the RHD TR8’s told me recently that all RHD TR8’s were actually built at Canley despite having a Solihull chassis number. Although the last 9 may not have been TBC.

CHP 300005 – NWK988W

The first  two “home market” TR8’s (Silver and Green – MHP404V and NWK988W) were used on the Club Triumph “Round Britain Rally” see email excerpt below from one of the team on this venture.

“At the time we did it, there was no decision to not launch the car in the UK it was still an active project. The tour was through the triumph club in London and it was setting off on a Friday night up to John a groats then lands end and back to London on the Sunday night. We did it with the intension of getting some publicity and for club members to see the cars. Nothing serious. (Garry Owen)”

 

1 – TPADV7AT 212246 ARGENT SILVER – MHP404V – Engine 10E00609 – MAN – Body number BBP202271 (1980 SPEC – Grey Stripe Velour Trim – ala Spider special edition) Designated Quality Build TR8. USA spec 8:13 pistons

2 – TPADV7AT 214004 POSEIDON GREEN – NWK988W – Engine 10E00655 – MAN – Body number CHP300005 (First RHD 8 with this body number series, also the first 9:35) (80/81/82 SPEC – Tan Velour Trim) Designated Development Man TR8 – (see BL Motorsport section) Modified and further developed by BL MOTORSPORT ABINGDON to what would have been 1982 spec. This cars engine was originally 8:13 then uprated to 9:35 pistons and BL MOTORSPORT WL9 performance camshaft as well as other performance and handling modifications.

After nearly 40 years in a private collection on the Isle of Man where no one got to see the car, it finally surfaced in a farm auction at a small place in Northern Ireland before being bought and returned to the mainland. The car is now in North Yorkshire.

 

July 2022 a rolling restoration was completed back to full health after 40 years of not doing much at all. Age, sitting in a collection and bad to no maintenance, unhelpful modifications etc, have taken their toll on the car but its now back to fully running again and as close to how it was when it left the factory as possible..

 

Solihull Initial pilot Methods Build Department RHD home market TR8’s 1980

2 RHD home market TR8’s were built by the methods department off track in 1980 1 x Auto and 1 x Man.

1 – TPADV7AA 402289 PENDELICAN WHITE – D70 OGJ – Engine 20E00001 – MAN – Body number CHP300009

NO BUILD SHEET – This was the first of 2 pilot production RHD TR8’s and was assembled off track by Methods Build Department. There appear to have been in my opinion a few human error mistakes with these two cars. For this one the Body number is given as CJP300009 then corrected to CJF300009 on the heritage certificate. All RHD TR8’s have a body number in the series CHP300XXX so I believe as it fits the right sequence, the body number for this car, should actually be CHP300009 which fits in with the sister AUTO car below with CHP300010.

 

2 – TPADV3AA 402290 PENDELICAN WHITE – Not registered – Engine 21E00001 – AUTO – Body number CHP300010

NO BUILD SHEET – This was the second of 2 pilot method build RHD TR8’s and was assembled off track by Methods Build Department. There appear to have been in my opinion a few human error mistakes with these two cars. For this one the chassis number should be TPADV3AA402290 where as on the car itself it shows TPADJ7AA402290. It was when this car first appeared again, thought a TR7 was taken from the line and converted but as this car has body number CHP300010 which is the CHP300 series ONLY used on RHD TR8’s I’m 99% certain that did not happen and that this car was not taken from the line as a TR7 but was actually built individually the same as any of the other RHD TR8’s. Short version no TR7 ever had a RHD TR8 body number so if it was a car taken from the line the body number would be a TR7 one and it isn’t. It also has the correct auto TR8 engine number of 21E.

Fully striped to a shell ground up restoration now under way May 2022

After being hidden away in a leaking lockup in London for 40 years unregistered, the car is now undergoing a full back to bare shell nut and bolt restoration. The car is now in Kent.

 

Later Production 18 RHD home market press/launch 1981 Solihull TR8’s  built on track – build cards

A further 18 RHD home market Press/launch TR8’s built at Solihull on track with the first batch of 9 being put through the manufacturing process late 1980, however they weren’t released from manufacturing until after the Christmas holidays so the build records show the final build date as being Jan 5th. I have to conclude therefore that all 18 were built/completed in 1981 contrary to a number of publications giving two batch’s of 9 in 1980 and another 9 in 1981.

 

1 – TPADV7AA 402960 PENDELICAN WHITE – RDU35W – Engine 20E00004 – Body number CHP300437

2 – TPADV7AA 403014 PENDELICAN WHITE – PVC574W – Engine 20E00008 – Body number CHP300429

3 – TPADV7AA 403024 PENDELICAN WHITE – ? – UNREGISTERED – Engine 20E00009 – Body number NONE! The build card for this car unusually states  AXLE WHITE & STRUT RED. It has no body number either listed and no one has heard about this car so I wonder if this car was used for testing of some sort and destroyed?

4 – TPADV7AA 403034 BORDEAUX RED  – URU287X – TRA8OK – ZV-11581 – Engine 20E00005 – Body number CHP300424 (This car no longer has its original engine and has been substantially modified – be concerned if you see this engine number on another car)

5 – TPADV7AA 403044 BORDEAUX RED – WPU282W (One of the two cars used by BSM) – Engine 20E00003 – Body number CHP300505

6 – TPADV7AA 403054 BORDEAUX RED (One of the two cars used by BSM) – (Destroyed by BSM) Engine 20E00002 – Body number CHP300596

7 – TPADV7AA 403062 PENDELICAN WHITE – WEL480X – Engine 20E00006 – Body number CHP300527

8 – TPADV7AA 403072 PERSIAN AQUA – A8TRR – Engine 20E00007 – Body number CHP300493

9 – TPADV7AA 403082 PERSIAN AQUA – A125GPH – Engine 20E00010 – Body number CHP300492

 

10 – TPADV7AA 403592 ARAN BEIGE – 56GJH – Engine 20E00021 – Body number CHP300525

11 – TPADV7AA 403731 PHARAOH GOLD – MFS302X – Engine 20E00016 – Body number CHP300708

12 – TPADV7AA 403736 PHARAOH GOLD – UNREGISTERED – FOR SALE 52.5K – Engine 20E00013 – Body number CHP300704

13 – TPADV7AA 403741 PHARAOH GOLD – OOV315X – Engine 20E00025 – Body number CHP300710

14 – TPADV7AA 403746 TRITON GREENEngine 20E00024 – Body number CHP300713

(Believed destroyed – unsubstantiated may now be black – beware!)

15 – TPADV7AA 403751 TRITON GREEN – WNW2X – Engine 20E00023 – Body number CHP300711

16 – TPADV7AA 403761 CAVALRY BLUE – D63OGJ – Engine 20E00022 – Body number CHP300727

17 – TPADV7AA 403764 ARGENT SILVER – 8202TR – Engine 20E00015 – Body number CHP300498

18 – TPADV7AA 403767 PERSIAN AQUA – OON223X – Engine 20E00029 Body number CHP300556

 

3 X EXP TR8’s built as RHD

EXP TR8 – X921 CARNELIAN RED – KHP573V RHD – Temperature testing

EXP TR8 – X923 PLATINUM SILVER – KHP574V – RHD – Mira test car flying quarter mile 130.43 mph

EXP TR8 – X925 SILVER LEAF – PVC568X – RHD – Trim/Styling evaluation car for the future may have been the 82 look

 

Information from British Car Auctions at Measham

More than 22 registered and 14 un-registered cars were sold by BL at Measham in the period August – September 1981. It is strongly believed that the 18 cars above were included in the auctions. Some data is available on the cars sold – see below. (There are quite a few more details to be added to this section once I have confirmed the details fully.)

British Car Auctions at Measham Video

RHD TR8 214004 POSEIDON GREEN – NWK988W – appears in this video at about 0.26

7th August 1981, Cars in – White, Midas Gold, and Champagne.

14th August 1981, Cars in – Bordeaux Red, and Persian Aqua.

21st August 1981, Cars in – White (auto), Persian Aqua, and Triton Green.

28th August 1981, Cars in – White, Persian Aqua, and Pharaoh Gold.

4th September 1981, Cars in – Cavalry Blue, Triton Green, and Bordeaux Red.

More Information is HERE

Other than the obvious RHD steering all the Home Market TR8’s had the commission plates on the suspension turret ala other UK spec cars – see below.

(Early Canley Home Market TR8’s have a USA plate fitted but in the same position)

 

RHD PRICING – The subject no one wants to hang their hat on! (Update May 2022)

UK HOME MARKET SPEC TR8’s (RHD) are very few (23/26) with only the odd one ever coming up for sale. So I would expect them to have a premium of 15-20K over a similar condition LHD TR8. Expect a very good condition original untouched and unregistered low mileage one to be around £50k given the rarity! The one below originally had a 60k asking price which has more recently been reduced on eBay to £52.5K. This particular car has been repainted – not a great job as the suspension nuts have been painted over as well which quite frankly is sloppy and lazy – as well as having had a poor conversion to external fuel pump to the extent the air plenum can no longer be fitted. So has to some extent now lost some of its originality. Still a very nice car though! This current price may still be a tad optimistic but if the owner hangs on to it for a few more years they may well stand a better chance.

POOR CONDITION RHD TR8 = £25K

FAIR/GOOD CONDITION (CLUB CAR) RHD TR8 = £30 – 35K

NEW PAINT CLEANED UP NICELY / CONCOURS FOR A LOCAL CAR SHOW = £35 – 40k

RESTORED/ORIGINAL TO A GOOD STANDARD TR8 = £40 – 45K

ORIGINAL/SHOW ROOM condition or BETTER THAN NEW EVERY NUT AND BOLT TR8 = £45 – 50K – To this standard as in the video BELOW

The above are guide prices only because at the end of the day if the car is sold with hardly anyone knowing its there it will obviously go for less than a well publicised sale! In the past year I have seen examples of both with one a bargain and the other at the top end of its value. If you want one, consider setting up a Google alert for TR8 and you will get to hear about many cars you otherwise wouldn’t know are for sale!

Individual Rarity increases the value by perhaps another 5K or so – there are only two RHD automatics and so as we all get older it wouldn’t surprise me to see those cars attach a premium. There is only one car modified by BL MOTORPOSRT Abingdon and that may give that car added value for people with a connection there. There are quite a few with low mileage which the owners try to keep that way by trailering the cars every where and some are still unregistered. Complete fully documented stories will always add extra value as well.

BEWARE – BECAUSE RHD CARS ATTRACT A PREMIUM EXPECT THERE TO BE RINGERS!

We believe if everyone knows who owns what and what might be used as a ringer, then the chances of someone cloning one becomes considerably less likely as its then very easy for a prospective buyer to check and verify a car they are looking at buying, hence why this information is here in the OPEN and not hidden away. There are currently two known destroyed cars and another that possibly was crash tested. They are Triton Green – Bordeaux Red – White. Check the details out above and make sure the engine and body numbers all stack up. One missing walk away! If in doubt drop us a line and we’ll gladly help.

COMING SOON MORE OF THE FACTORY USA SPEC CARS CONVERTED IN THE FACTORY TO RHD

Including these cars takes the total FACTORY built approved RHD TR8’s to 34..

1 – TPVDV4AT 207723 CASHMERE GOLD – LVC365V – Engine 13E00311 – AUTO – Body number BBP203123 (1980 SPEC – Tan check Trim) Designated Development Auto TR8. USA spec 8:13 pistons

COMING SOON TR7 TO TR8 WELL BUILT TR8 REPLICAS

These cars have been built to full factory TR8 spec but after production ended and by individuals. Their builders/owners have always been genuine and above board about what they are. These cars represent the next best IOHO.

COMING SOON “PARTS CARS” YOU SHOULD AVOID IF YOU WANT A GENUINE FACTORY RHD TR8

At the end of production more parts were leaving the factory than were actually going on cars! These cars are frequently being passed off as genuine RHD TR8’s/Development cars built by the factory when in actual fact they were built from shells (often from for example, TR7’s with O series engines that have been removed so are claimed as development cars – just not TR8 development) and a collection of often random year parts acquired towards and after the end of production. While interesting from an historical point of view THEY ARE NOT GENUINE FACTORY BUILT AND APPROVED CARS. They generally carry TR7 chassis numbers or in the case of one we are aware of, a made up chassis number but registered as a TR7 with DVLA. The value of these would be much lower than any of the above and you should very much consider buyer beware no matter what letters and claims from previous owners may say or hint at. Check with Heritage at Gaydon or talk to us, if it isn’t there or we don’t know, walk away!